the wiiu is only 720P and 60FPS. Retailer clearing shelf of Switch stock. not a very big jump. How the Nintendo Switch Unified Nintendo’s Strategies. We don't know yet, but it will be the strongest handheld so far. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Did Krillin go Super Krillin? Can someone help, my switch won't connect to the internet, even though it has before. Rigorous testing of the Wii U and Switch versions of The Legend of Zelda: Breath … Let's see how Switch looks in portable mode. Well if it can run Unreal Engine 4, I can't imagine it's as terribly weak as some on here are suggesting. This anyone who is not really into dudebro games will enjoy the switch. Help? What clocks that chip runs at, and how much its changed nobody knows. Nobody knows just yet. Nintendo Wii U 8GB. QUESTION: Don't systems gradually improve due to updates?! The Wii is the first console that we’re looking at, and this one is essentially you’re standard game console. In terms of hardware design, the Xbox One and Switch are completely different machines. The big difference between this one and other consoles is actually in design. How much slower nobody knows. Free shipping . But when taken on-the-go, the Switch's GPU speeds are nearly halved to 302MHz. No one really knows for sure right now but it sounds like that it's somewhere between the Wii U and PS4/Xbox One. We know they all run on more or less the same engine with Fifa games.Wii U graphics are very comparable to PS3/360.Dragon Quest Heroes on Switch seems to be the PS3 port.Switch … People thought the 3DS would have 60-80m polygons at first gpu wise. Sure this can be said with any console but I was using 3ds as easy comparison. Wii U Daily Rumors In early December 2011, Wii U Daily reported hardware information supposedly received from a Japanese developer. It doesn't work that way, unless you're only counting FP16 performance. Sure, they can do that. The only thing we know so far is that there is a nvidia chip in that box, as it's confirmed by nvidia. A Captain, and a salesman for FLAMGEAR products, I'm trolling the Nintendo Switch board almost exclusively now - N_Guy_N exposing himself. This topic is locked from further discussion. vague mostly means weak. March is here, but the PS5 isn't any easier to find in stock. One of my favourite things about settling down of an … Seems like it's marginally faster than the Wii U based on this: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/switch-vs-wii-u-all-the-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-d/1100-6447008/. But with more FLOPS in Switch, bandwidth speed would be a huge bottleneck. Epic Mickey Power of Illusion. When the Wii U first launched , it was available for the same price or for $349.99 as a Deluxe edition with extra storage space. Nintendo Switch vs Wii U review The Nintendo Switch is here so we've taken a look at how it compares to the Wii U. for instance the CPU from rumours looks to be quite under clocked but didn't improve the CPU performance on 3DS over time get better with performance updates. While no one knows the precise spec down to the digit, the number of Nvidia CUDA cores in a Tegra X1 is well known (256) and the clockspeed of the CPU and GPU were confirmed by Eurogamer. The message was confused from the start. ^^ Yamcha just saved a Baseball game between two dimensions. The announcement is extremely vague tho. Wii U vs Switch: How Does Zelda: Breath of the Wild Compare. Wii U graphics are very comparable to PS3/360. PS3 and xbox 360 architectures are so outdated, its faster then that for sure. vs. Nintendo Switch. We'll know when it launches. Yes. Krillin is an OP police man and (I guess) good father. As for Wii U GPU: 160 shader processors x 2 Flops per clock x 550 MHz = 176 GFlops. Thought this looked like a good game after reading about it and loved the first Epic Mickey, I love the 2D art done for this game though I was expecting this game to look a little more like the way its advertised on the cover and stay true to it's Wii and Wii U adaption, but really thats not something I am going to make a big deal out of. The new architecture helped them a lot tho. What happened to the X1? vs. Sony Vita. Nintendo Switch® ... Wii U® 1 item; Sort By Type: ... Cables Universal Power Cable for New Nintendo 2DS® XL/ New Nintendo 3DS®/ New Nintendo 3DS® XL/ Nintendo 2DS®/ Nintendo 3DS® XL/Nintendo 3DS®/Nintendo Dsi XL®/Nintendo DSi®/Nintendo DS® Lite/Nintendo DS®/ Game Boy Advance® SP/ PSP® 3000/ PSP® 2000/ PSP® 1000. @flyincloud1116: there isn't that big a gap between ps4 and x1, how about. I think Wii-U games look slightly better than ps3 and 360. We know they all run on more or less the same engine with Fifa games. Dragon Quest Heroes on Switch seems to be the PS3 port. This makes it 2.8x as graphically powerful as the Wii U before it. When docked, the Switch's Tegra chip is unlocked and the GPU runs at 768MHz. It does absolutely nothing and it should be garbage. All we know for sure is that it's more powerful than the Wii U in terms of raw power. CPU: Wii: Single-core, 32-bit, PowerPC-based Broadway microprocessor @ 729MHz. The Wii U is one of the more energy-efficient gaming consoles among similar devices. I have always only fought for the people I believe in. Going off tangent, I guess we're still 1 handheld gen away from most triple A multi-plat games to hit the handhelds. Wii U's 720p picture gets boosted to 1080p on Switch, just as with Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - though no anti-aliasing makes the cut. RAM: Wii: 88MB total. The X1 is the Chowsu...hmmm no, the Krillin. I never cared about justice, and I don't recall ever calling myself a hero. Wii U wattage. By Jill Scharr 03 June 2014 The Wii U uses less than half the power of the Xbox One and PS4, but all three consoles use way too much power for streaming video. WOW! Truly, the games look 90% the same: vast, colorful, cartoonish, and beautiful. @crashnburn281: Switch cant get 100% of games. Switch (2017): 393 GFlops (when docked) - 157 GFlops (undocked as a portable), Xbox 360 (2005): 240 GFlop GPU (ATi Xenos) + 115 GFlop CPU (Xenon, tri-core IBM PPC) ~355 GFlops total, PS3 (2006): 218 GFlop CPU (CELL) + 192 GFlop GPU (Nvidia RSX) ~400+ GFlops total, Wii U (2012): 176 GFlop GPU (AMD 'Latte') + 15 GFLOP CPU ('Espresso') ~200 GFlops total, Xbox Scorpio (2017) ~6,000+ (6 TF) (spec not finalized or public yet). Time will tell. Really far away, but I'm excited for the era after the Switch gen be it powerful handheld PCs or the next, next gen of handheld consoles. WOW! For console however not really. Switch pro to come soon? The Wii U was about bringing back the more personal "You". The Switch is roughly as powerful as the Wii U — a little speedier, sure, but they’re not in different galaxies. Nintendo Switch vs. Wii U: Price The Nintendo Switch costs $299.99. vs. Nintendo Wii U 8GB. Gpu didn't yield much behind that barely beated the ps3/xbox360 on it's own game. Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. That's my reference point for it since I'm gonna treat it as a handheld with no VITA successor in sight. Wii U: Triple-core, 32-bit, PowerPC-based Espresso microprocessor @ 1.243GHz. i havent seen how much ram is available for games on the switch (im guessing 1.5GB but i am pulling that out of my backside a bit). The Nintendo Switch came just in time in 2017 as the Wii U’s sales dried up, and the new hybrid home and portable console was an instant success. ~Zero. I think it will be slightly less than ps4 or xbox. The Switch is Nintendo's only console to date that offers a teraFLOP of performance. OS tweaks / little bit upclocking from the cpu's / gpu's over time etc. I swear nintendo fans and those who pre ordered this console are really really stupid. Both systems are also built around 6.2-inch touchscreens. I guess you don't watch DBS? ... (Nintendo Wii U, 2014) $8.99. I really hope Nintendo considers releasing a small version later tho, maybe not even call it a Switch but about slightly bigger than the VITA and appropriately cooled passively. zelda runs at 900P at 30FPS. Wii U in standby uses just 0.4 watts. slower then xbox one. It's hard to pin down the exact difference between the two, but needless to say the Switch is much more powerful, even though it is effectively using a mobile chipset. The Nintendo’s Wii U is a souped-up version of the original Wii, which in fact was a successor to the previous game console, GameCube. People know their phones and tablets aren't as powerful as desktops or even laptops. Switch version of Zelda is very similar to Wii U with slightly higher resolution. I know it's not. vs. Microsoft Xbox One S. vs. Nintendo Wii U 8GB. I think it's 2X Wii U, which in turn was about 1.5X PS3/360. vs. Sony Vita. 720P and 30FPS for the wiiu (itll be interesting to see if there is any major performance difference). However, it is also using ARM, which is generally more efficient, so based on the best guesses out there it will probably come close to equalling the xbone in time. 400 MFLOPs (Namco System 22 Hardware) ----> 400 GFLOPs (custom Tegra in Nintendo Switch) = 1000X raw performance. That … Nobody knows for sure. OEM Nintendo Switch Charging Dock + AC Adapter Power Cable OEM HDMI CABLE Set TV. How powerful would the Switch Pro be compared to the Regular Switch? @Jag85: It seems you are using half-precision (FP16) figures for Switch, those aren't automatically useful in games. Did Krillin go Super Krillin? So around 1,000 times more powerful than the arcade hardware than ran the original Ridge Racer in 1993. Otherwise Switch in handheld mode makes little sense doing Wii U games. The CPU doesn't clock up or down depending on whether the system is docked or undocked. Roughly 1.75x more capable from all that has been shown, or 75%. Essentially this will grant the system a 56% resolution gain with slightly more on screen graphical features. vs. Nintendo 3DS XL. Given the radical nature of the design of the Switch, I think even your most basic consumer will understand that you can't directly compare it to other consoles, even the older ones. Nevertheless, the Namco System 22 was a beast back then, giving the Sega Model 2 a run for its money. With the Wii U’s poor performance leaving Nintendo in a tough spot, the next console release was crucial to the success of the company. Same here, and it seems many 3rd party developers feel the same, even if they're not commenting on Switch. There are tech sheets that you can read yourself. If I delete an account on my Nintendo Switch, will I still have those games? What happened to the X1? The best guess is that it is 1 teraflop, which is 0.3 teraflop from equaling the xbone, and roughly 2x the wiiu. You can see stuff like that clearly in Splatoon 1 vs 2, where the textures and everything are significantly better and yet it can still run on higher resolutions while maintaining 60Fps. Odd comparison. Switch is massively under powered for a home console releasing in 2017. Compare this to the 1.24 GHz Tri-Core “Espresso” CPU in the Wii U … If Switch pro is real, are you going to sell your old switch? And most likely for a reason. I just wonder why people even try to buy this stupid piece of crap. Nothing special. Sushi Striker: The Way of Sushido (Nintendo 3DS, 2018) $3.99. All game engines use FP32 (single precision) floating point math. Online Mode Was Infinitely Better on the Wii U. When the Wii U is in gameplay mode, the console uses 34 watts. Microsoft Is Reportedly Planning An Xbox Event For March 26, But Don't Get Too Excited Yet, Halo Infinite Dev Confirms No Dual-Wielding In 44-Minute Deep Dive On The Game. Damn, so the PS4 died and the Switch saved the gaming industry. OEM Nintendo Switch Charging Dock + AC Adapter Power Cable OEM HDMI CABLE Set TV. vs. Nintendo Switch. Switch is closer in power to Xbox360, PS3 and Wii U than it is to Xbox One/PS4. The adapter you need is called a MayFlash Magic-NS. So, tech-wise, how does the Switch compare to the Wii U. There's no way Wii U GPU had 320 shaders and therefore 352 GFlops. Docked, for TV mode, about 2X the GPU performance of WiiU. is it possible to download games directly to sd card? It's ahead of the wii-u for sure how far depends on clocks really. Around 400 GFLOPS, yes. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. It's geeks who really make or break a TV show or movie or videogame. No one knows for sure yet, but clues point to it being compatible to 360/PS3 rather than ps4/x1. $93.99. ram bandwidth is not factored in floating point operations per second. Well your cellphone is more powerful CPU, so it's really useless to compare. People assume the x1, could very well be another chip based on pascal or whatever. The obvious suspect would be the Wii U's 1.2GHz CPU, a tri-core piece of hardware re-architected from the Wii's Broadway chip, in turn a tweaked, overclocked version of the GameCube's Gekko processor. Its no biggy though, if people want to play them games, theyll just play on PC. The Wii U's processor was uncovered by a hacker as a Power PC tri core to be roughly clocked at 1.2 to 1.3 ghz however its a much newer architecture and design so comparing the speeds to 360's or PS3's would be irrelevant. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. Same goes for wii-u, people thought 600gflops, comfortable performacne boost over ps3/xbox360. Using BotW comparisons are not fair to the system. The Tegra X1 is in fact one of the most powerful mobile chipsets in recent times, so this is a surprisingly massive hardware upgrade for a company not known for adding much hardware tech to its new consoles. At the end it was a 15m chip, but even that one was clocked way below the 200mhz it was build for towards 133m which even cut that performance down drastically lower. ARM's efficiency comes from programming tricks, and they will likely have to develop those over time. What are some plus sides to a Nintendo Account? You need quite a lot more power to make something like that happen. 99% of Switch's spec is well understood, at this point. PORTHOLIC Wii to HDMI Converter 1080P for Full HD Device, Wii HDMI Adapter with 3,5mm Audio Jack&HDMI Output Compatible with Nintendo Wii, Wii U, HDTV, Monitor-Supports All Wii … Its not slightly less powerful its for the absolute most half the power the Xbox One. Damn, so the PS4 died and the Switch saved the gaming industry. Switch is like a rock compared to other consoles. As a summary - docked is a big increase over Wii U, undocked it's a lot closer but the Switch is still noticeably superior overall. But we'll see. Switch isn't even close to half the power of Xbox One, much less PS4. FP16 for games is new territory, and while there is some usefulness for it, a lot of that is going to happen going forward. for instance the CPU from rumours looks to be quite under clocked but didn't improve the CPU performance on 3DS over time get better with performance updates. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The list should be more like:PC: Whis - by far the strongest and most intelligent beingPs4 Pro: Goku - trys to be as cool as Whis, doesn't even get a chance against Hit.xOne: Vegeta - trying to catch up to Goku, never managing to do soSwitch: Boo - Doesn't care what others do and just wants to have fun. It is a wiiu port. GPU - this is a small win for the Switch when undocked and a much bigger win when docked. Aside from using a new(er) Nvidia Maxwell architecture, Switch has FAR less performance than either. vs. Nintendo Switch Lite. It can't be more FLOPS because Switch's RAM bandwidth speed is around 25 Gbps. I'm not a graphics whore by any means, but this system is going to have issues with Xbone and PS4 ports. Some believe they do. The power's in the console but the GamePad is an integral part of the experience . So its gonna miss out on few dudebro games. But we cannot just double Switch performance by counting FP16 performance. Free shipping . Again, while AMD and Nvidia FLOPs are not 100% identical in what they get done per flop, the sheer gulf in performance between Switch and original XBone/PS4 is far too large for Switch hardware to be even remotely comparable. What we will get at the end of the day, needs to be see when that thing gets torn apart. Don't even want to think about what happens when Scorpio and Pro start become the standard. not even remotely close to a PS4 or X1. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. zelda and MK8 also run at 720P when not docked and performance and visuals seem to be at least as good as the wiiu so there is nothing to suggest that the switch is a step down from the wii u when running from the battery. Wii U… $89.99. And a chip from nvidia. Hi, this video shows you how you can use a Wii U Pro Controller on the Nintendo Switch. GameCube + PS3 with a dash of Vita= Switch. It's like saying original PS4 does 3.68 TFlops and PS4 Pro does 8.4 TFlops. Any variation in the shipping hardware is going to be very, very minor and of almost zero consequence. The power of this system, or apparent lack of, is the biggest hangup I have with this system. That mentality will transfer over to the Switch. The Switch costs just $299.99, the same as the basic version of the Wii U when it launched. They compare in the sense that they are both underpowered Nintendo consoles lol. It's nice for a portable though, much better than PS Vita (the PowerVR GPU in Vita is positively ancient by today's mobile standards tho). Anything else you read on this thread is purely based on speculation, rumours, and unverified information. People will look at what is inside the system and tell everyone exactly what the specs are. Wii U vs. Wii: Comparison Chart. I am one of those people. No. Energy use of a Wii U in standby mode. When that didn't pan out and it was the pica200, they thought it was going ot be 40m around that. Energy use of a Wii U during gameplay. Roughly 1/4th the performance of Xbox One, and roughly 1/5th the performance of PS4. when docked its about 2X the wiiu...ish. Well, not that clearly, to be honest. It uses less than half the power of Xbox One and PS4. Still way lower then people aspected. The Nintendo Switch runs on (modified) Nvidia Tegra X1 processor — which is a quad-core, 64-bit CPU, with an Nvidia Maxwell 256-core GPU. Thanks to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild launching on both the Switch and Wii U this week, we can clearly tell the differences between each system's processing capabilities. But from the games that we saw, i'm hopeful as the visuals i see that thing project "if you look at it as a handheld over the 3ds and vita" is absolutely stunning. The console sits in a vertical position instead of the standard horizontal block that most manufacturers tend to ship out their consoles as. shipping: + $3.99 shipping . The Xbox One looks and operates like a traditional gaming console. It's hard to say right now. All points to 4 systems having similar technical capabilities. Wii U (2012): 176 GFlop GPU (AMD 'Latte') + 15 GFLOP CPU ('Espresso') ~200 GFlops total, Xbox Scorpio (2017) ~6,000+ (6 TF) (spec not finalized or public yet), Switch (2017) - 786 GFLOPS (docked) / 393 GFLOPS (portable), Wii U (2012) - 352 GFLOPS GPU (AMD Latte) + 15 GFLOPS CPU (Espresso) = 367 GFLOPS total. The Wii actually resembles a normal console, actually using game discs instead of, say, small insert-able cards. while docked it can run MK8 at 1080P and 60FPS. think about 10m more likely. Summary of Nintendo Wii U Vs. Wii. reality, cpu's where pile of junk and the memory with that. I don't think Wii U's capabilities really emerged until Mario Kart 8, and that was mid-cycle. QUESTION: Don't systems gradually improve due to updates?! It will not show the Switch's full potential at all, and even then it is clearly superior to the wiiu version in lots of ways. 3. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/switch-vs-wii-u-all-the-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-d/1100-6447008/. Until someone gets to the guts of this system and/or Nintendo confirms any of the specs we won't know for sure. The Wii U, on the other hand, has a 1.24GHz tri-core IBM CPU and 550MHz Radeon GPU. You can't feed a strong GPU with small bandwidth. Check online inventory and the latest PS5 restock news here. vs. ... Floating-point performance is a measurement of the raw processing power of the GPU. Comments (8) For this outlay you’ll get a pair of Joy-Con controllers and a Switch … about 1.2X the wiiu when its not docked.